Luka Doncic is shooting much worse than Westbrook from 3 on nearly 3 more attempts. Doncic is at 7.2 attempts per game shooting 28% while Westbrook is at 4.4 attempts per game shooting 33%
It’s surprising that Carlisle is letting Doncic shoot this much when he’s a truly awful 3 point shooter. On the other side, the way Westbrook has shot is a surprise? 33% isn’t a great 3P% but it barely below league average and better than Victor Oladipo too.
[–]Pelicans Good_NewsEveryone 1484 指標 1 天前
His finishing at the rim is down from 72% to 60% as well. Mavs season has been a mess with injury and COVID but it’s mildly concerning.
[–]Raptors cabbeer 542 指標 1 天前
I think losing spacing is what's hurting Luka, but I've only watched a couple games, any Mavs fans care to comment?
[–]Mavericks lost_in_trepidation 661 指標 1 天前
That's right. Spacing and no secondary playmaking. Luka can pass it to another player, but if they can't shoot or create a shot, it's going to turn into a wasted possession.
[–]Knicks NovaKash 483 指標 1 天前
I think the Mavs miss Curry more than they realized. Obviously Richardson has been helpful, the Mavs are much better on defense, but their success last year was built on an historically good offense.
[–]Lakers sw4ggyP 171 指標 1 天前
S. Curry is no stranger when it comes to beating Western Conference teams
[–]Trail Blazers notgarrykasparov 323 指標 1 天前
Yo the same thing happened to Portland after the 2019 WCF trip. Curry left that offseason and the team hasnt had the bail out guard to keep their team in games since he has been gone. Both Dame and CJ feel the heightened pressure.
Its a huge compliment to Curry. That dude should be getting yearly 6th man of the year awards and getting paid 15 mil.
[–]Huskies Stinky_DungBeatle 71 指標 23小時前*
And Philly right now is thriving with him there with a lot better spacing in general (though not having Horford/Embiid/Simmons death space lineups and a change in coaches helps alot as well) so there is truth to what you said.
[–]Doctorbigdick287 24 指標 23小時前
We looked noticably worse when he was out, and even when his shkt isnt falling he still pulls guys to the perimeter, like with that tobias game winner the other night
[–]MavericksBlaz3dnconfuz3d 84 指標 1 天前
He’s 10000% underrated. Never causes any issues, great bball iq, great shooter, good passer
[–]Mavericks lost_in_trepidation 54 指標 1 天前
yeah I was saying that while we had him and after the trade in Philly's sub. He can do so much more on offense than just spot up shoot, and he's also one of the best spot up shooters in the league.
[–]Mavericks lost_in_trepidation 62 指標 1 天前
Yes, I don't know how losing Curry has fundamentally broke our offense, but unless things change it seems like that's what happened.
[–]Knicks kamicozzy 23 指標 1 天前
Silas too I guess
[–]Mavericks lost_in_trepidation 12 指標 1 天前
Maybe. We seem to be running the same offensive sets that we ran with Silas, but without the spacing it is awful. Maybe Silas would have made better adjustment though.
[–]Lakers so-cal_kid 59 指標 1 天前
He needs help. He literally has to create everything on offense for that team. The thing no one wants to talk about is Porzingis is just not good enough of a second star for them. Luka ends up taking bad shots because they have no other options on a lot of possessions, and he gets gassed having to go off the dribble so much.
[–]dontpassgo 13 指標 1 天前
The problem is that he needs time after an injury to get into the groove. Then he plays up to his standards. And then gets injured again.
[–]Mavericks Elguirisueco 11 指標 20小時前
As a Real Madrid fan who has watched Luka since before the NBA, he's never been a fantastic 3- point shooter. But this season is quite bad. I would argue that he needs a lot of help too. No one else is playing well. It's horrible to watch.
[–]Hawks ItsJustRedditBruh 16 指標 22小時前
Imma stay out of this one cause I know he'll bounce back huge. Just like Young did after his shitty slump.
[–]Adidasboys20 指標 1 天前
I saw a couple mags games recently and man his shot selection is truly horrible. Like bottom five in the league amongst all star level players. Like why does every 3 have to be hard? Why not mix in easier shots ? I can see this costing them close games if the mags become a contender. There are honestly times I feel like he can just pull up or do a Hesi and then pull-up but instead he does a dribble move into a step back
[–]Pistons AttorneyAtLion 36 指標 1 天前
He obviously doesn’t need to take this many threes but man I’m getting flashbacks from when Harden and Westbrook (when they were on separate teams) had to do this to space the floor because their supporting casts couldn’t create any offense and driving and kicking every single play is a great way to get injured.
[–]New Jersey Nets LebronJamesBurnerAcc[S] 48 指標 1 天前
Luka is a bad catch and shoot shooter too, that’s usually a good indication if volume is insanely high and percentage not super great. Harden is like a 44% on catch and shoots, and Westbrook in the best year was a extremely solid 35% in his MVP year.
[–]76ers Royal_Scratch_2772 266 指標 1 天前
The most surprising thing here is that Russ is shooting > .300
[–]Pelicans Cry6ix 169 指標 1 天前
A lot of people not realising this post isnt about saying who's better its about how Westbrook gets ridiculed for shooting low % but Luka - someone who's praised and is shooting far worse - doesn't.
[–]Raptors RZAAMRIINF 50 指標 1 天前
Looool, Luka’s TS right now is higher than Russell’s career high.
[–]Pacers nailimixamt 49 指標 1 天前
Doncic TS for this season is 56.2% and Westbrook TS is 46.1%. In fact Lonzo Ball has a higher TS than Westbrook this eason. Also 33% from 3pt isn't just "barely below league average". The league average for this season from 3pt is 36.5%.
[–]GhostOf2Sushi 7 指標 1 天前
It’s weird I’ve seen people downvoted for bringing up luka is laying bricks. In another thread when someone was talking about Westbrook shooting badly someone else mentioned luka was also bricking badly and got downvoted
[–][SEA] Robert Swift eat_pray_thug 695 指標 1 天前
Everyone wants to rank him as a top 3 player and MVP favorite, but he doesn't get held to those standards.
Must be nice.
[–]Cavaliers HK4sixteen 264 指標 1 天前
Because he's fucking 21 years old
[–]Magic Yung_Hibachi 541 指標 1 天前
Well then people should relax on guaranteeing he’ll be the MVP like they did before this season
[–]Celtics TheLeoMessiah 158 指標 1 天前
Trae is 22 but this sub loves dunking on him
[–]Broken Areos 70 指標 22小時前
So Trae can put up incredible numbers with a G league team and he gets accused of posting empty stats, but when luka puts up awful numbers it’s his teams fault?
Someone is gonna have to explain this logic to me
[–]Rockets A_Rolling_Baneling 94 指標 23 小時前
I wonder why people hate on Trae and love Doncic... Can't even think of any obvious differences between the two of them.
[–]Mavericks NowitzkiWay 97 指標 23 小時前
It’s the hair, right?
[–]Suns cicadaenthusiat 10 指標 23 小時前
Rubio had almost the same conditions and got eaten alive early. I'm glad this isn't the case with Luka, but for whatever reason I think Luka does get a little bit of preferential treatment
[–][BKN] Jarrett Allen Batman_in_hiding 119 指標 1 天前
Man you guys coddle the shit out of luka. It’s ok to admit he isn’t perfect and might still need some time to perfect his game at the nba level. If he’s the front runner for mvp and a lock for top 20 all time then it’s completely fair to criticize some of his poor performances.
[–]Warriors technicallycorrect2 598 指標 1 天前
The excuses in this thread. Lol.
[–]Thunder Thunderloudfan 301 指標 1 天前
Imagine if it was the other way around
[–]76ers ashbjj 40 指標 1 天前
Is Luka really 32% from 3 for his career? He's really a worse shooter than Embiid lol.
[–]Trail Blazers correalvinicius 18 指標 1 天前
Not really. Luka takes most of his threes off the dribble while Embiid doesn't. This is the same kind of argument of when Lillard used to shoot 37% from 3 and people were like JJ REDICK is a better shooter than Dame, no he isn't, his shots are just a lot easier
[–][WAS] Courtney Alexander heyrak 37 指標 23小時前
Your point is good but your player example is bad. J.j. reddick is one of the best 3pt shooters to ever live, who hits them with no room, moving to his right, off the catch, at insane rates and on high volume.
[–]Adidasboys 28 指標 1 天前*
32% at 8+ per game is really bad though. He’s probably the worst high volume shooter in the league.
The biggest concern I think is he said he focused on his 3 the whole summer and so far it’s worse than last year
[–][ATL] Dennis Schroder online_predator 122 指標 1 天前
Hilarious especially after most of these same fanboys would shit all over guys like WB and especially Young last season while making every excuse in the book for their golden boy.
[–]Pacers nailimixamt 35 指標 1 天前
Luka Doncic has a way higher TS than Westbrook does (56 vs 46)%. TS actually indicates how good someone is at scoring compared to 3pt shooting percentage.
[–]DeaseanPrince 38 指標 23小時前
So? This post isn’t about TS%. He’s shooting one of the worst percentage all time for his volume lol. That’s bad no matter how many excuses y’all make.
[–]Master Teacher123 287 指標 1 天前
Luka is a really overrated shooter
[–]Mavericks Stewdabaker2013 7 指標 23 小時前
Is he overrated? Everyone knows he’s a bad 3P shooter lol
[–]Pacers EpicBlinkstrike187 69 指標 1 天前
I don’t particularly like the Luka hype. He’s not a great shooter. But he has the basketball IQ to pick good shot attempts quite a bit. (minus the 3’s)
If he were actually a good shooter he would be insane.
[–]Mavericks R3DT1D3 4 指標 1 天前
Honestly Luka's done a decent job of bringing it up after a horrendous start the season. Let's check back in in a few months and see if it's still that low.